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[ArcaniteChill]

This needs to be changed, we can only do it together right? We look back at men like Dr.King who made such a change in this world, but now we have the opportunity to do the same!

Spread the word! KONY 2012!

[Koen]

now let's get this topic some more views

[TheTPRI]

now let's get this topic some more views

Hehe...Koen O'Brian...

[Da Milk Man]

now let's get this topic some more views

Hehe...Koen O'Brian...

I'll warn you right now, this is not a place to laugh and joke about things. Be more sensitive to the topic at hand.

[xDarkAnsem]

People at my school were writing this all over the whiteboards today.

[otto]

KONY = UN/HOLLYWOOD Propaganda to invade ANOTHER African Country...Its BS! Dont fall for it.You want another Blackhawk Down Somalia?
Oh and by the way there's over 100 US "Military advisors" allready in Uganda monitering the situation. And the Ugandan Govt.(the real crooks in this story)have ALLREADY killed over 7million people in the last decade all under the payroll of the U S and Western countries,the US is Ugandas biggest arms dealer THIS WAS NEVER MENTIONED IN THAT VID,THEY NEVER MENTIONED THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS,TORTURE AND GENOCIDE THATS GOING ON IN UGANDA RIGHT NOW ALL UNDER THE NOSES OF NATO!
So yeah go after the small time crook J Kony....We'll leave the real big bad guys alone.

[T Diamond]

KONY = UN/HOLLYWOOD Propaganda to invade ANOTHER African Country...Its BS! Dont fall for it.You want another Blackhawk Down Somalia?
Oh and by the way there's over 100 US "Military advisors" allready in Uganda monitering the situation. And the Ugandan Govt.(the real crooks in this story)have ALLREADY killed over 7million people in the last decade all under the payroll of the U S and Western countries,the US is Ugandas biggest arms dealer THIS WAS NEVER MENTIONED IN THAT VID,THEY NEVER MENTIONED THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS,TORTURE AND GENOCIDE THATS GOING ON IN UGANDA RIGHT NOW ALL UNDER THE NOSES OF NATO!
So yeah go after the small time crook J Kony....We'll leave the real big bad guys alone.

Sad but true. You've got to be careful with who and what you support. Things are often more dubious than they appear.

[Da Milk Man]

Quite really, the issue is, the only reasons the USA would be supporting this would be:

- To gain resources that we don't have in the USA for tech things, such as cellular phones (we already do this, and others have done this)

- The "white man's burden", believing that we are the great heros that free those who are helpless (which is rather bigoted and high-and-mighty)

Think about it. Why hasn't Uganda already done something? Perhaps their government is benefiting too? There's so much more than what's at the surface level. What we really should be going after are the people who exploit these countries, a-la, governments. The United Nations, perhaps?

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Am I saying we should leave Kony alone? Oh hell no. He deserves a life sentence.

Am I saying that there are other factors playing in this? Oh hell yes I am. Kony is a thug. The governments are the gangsters that get what they want.

[T Diamond]

Quite really, the issue is, the only reasons the USA would be supporting this would be:

- To gain resources that we don't have in the USA for tech things, such as cellular phones (we already do this, and others have done this)

- The "white man's burden", believing that we are the great heros that free those who are helpless (which is rather bigoted and high-and-mighty)

Think about it. Why hasn't Uganda already done something? Perhaps their government is benefiting too? There's so much more than what's at the surface level. What we really should be going after are the people who exploit these countries, a-la, governments. The United Nations, perhaps?

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Am I saying we should leave Kony alone? Oh hell no. He deserves a life sentence.

Am I saying that there are other factors playing in this? Oh hell yes I am. Kony is a thug. The governments are the gangsters that get what they want.

Actually I think that if this video wasn't made then nothing mainstream would be done. Now if something is done it'll be more like a show to say "We've helped the people" Which pretty much means that the leader is taken out or at least searched for, someone gives a statement about it everyone stops caring and everyone who supported this thinks their a hero, or at least a good person.
Honestly with this video things may have be even worse this country. What this video has done is:

A.) Made this a mainstream issue, which is pretty much a news fad and once all the hype dies nobody will care about it anymore. This means at best in a greatest scenario situation they'll be a seemingly big movement for it, the hype dies the aid slowly goes away and the country is left to pick up the pieces.

B.) Made the rebels seem nothing but evil and the government nothing but good. Western culture (Americas and Europe) have this black and white sense of good and evil. It's apparent that there must be one good and one evil and as little gray as possible. This is very rarely the case in reality though. I don't support the methods nor tactics of the rebels, but they're rebelling for a reason. They have a corrupt government there. Like Otto said, there's concentration camps, millions of murders, etc. all coming from the government. And what's even worse is that it's not even mentioned in this video. You know what, I think I'll call it propaganda, because that's what it truly is, propaganda. And much like all propaganda, it tells one side, one story, and doesn't look at the whole picture because it hurts the cause the propaganda is trying to make. I'm not saying the rebels are right nor am I saying we should do nothing, but simply saying everything the rebels do, say, and believe is in wrong, will hurt the people more than it will help them in the long run.

C.) Give a quick simple solution. The old saying that the best solution is usually this easiest just doesn't fly when it comes to issues like this. Saying we need to take out the leader-and thus the rebels- and everything will be fine is not something that will work in reality. It's not like this is the first African country to be in the exact same position. It's happened at least a dozen times before and the same thing happens whenever the rebels are taken out or take out the government. If the rebels are taken out then the government becomes even worse and more cruel and the people are hurt even more. If the rebels win those who don't support the rebels are treated horribly, maybe something like 4th class citizens. Either way the situation gets worse for those who live in the country.

This is a complicated issue, simply saying "Kill this guy to help the Africans" will not work.
I think the guy who made it had a sincere care for the people, and believed that this was the right thing to do, but ultimately it will probably do more harm them good.
That's my take on it anyways.

[FEL]

I say we don't give poop about it because as average citizens we can't do poop about anything.

[mechazeep]

Uganda be kidding me

[buncakes1337]

While it is atrocious what this man is doing, I don't think the Ugandan government is much better. With laws to kill all homosexuals, and the horrible crimes they've committed to their own citizens, I don't find supplying them with better arms to be a good solution.

[Roy-G-Biv]

What's always perplexed me is how the people are so ignorant of news channels and programs and how they "suddenly" learn from some amateur activist from youtube.

They've covered Kony for years.
We've always known about Kony for years, but now we start to give a damn?
I've heard more people mentioning Kony in a single day than I have in the last.... well my entire lifetime.

What truly sickens me is not just Kony's actions, but how people today can proclaim that they know about Kony's strategies, his ambition as if they know all about the subject.

[T Diamond]

Didn't the guy who made the video get hospitalized for temporary insanity?

[FEL]

Didn't the guy who made the video get hospitalized for temporary insanity?

He whipped out his little shooter in public.

[mechazeep]

Didn't the guy who made the video get hospitalized for temporary insanity?

He whipped out his little shooter in public.

happens to the best of us

[MontesquieuTMTC]

I hated KONY 2012 before it was cool

[buncakes1337]

I hated KONY 2012 before it was cool

I do find it insane how blown up it got in such a short period of time. It would be a credible video had the creator not bend facts beyond recognition.

[FEL]

Edited by lolz i am super kool, 09 April 2012 - 11:19 AM.

[buncakes1337]

I must admit, that was pretty hilarious.

[Revon]

k1FKS1SHSsc

I must admit, that was pretty hilarious.

And fairly accurate.

[Under-Age Waffles]

Didn't the guy who made the video get hospitalized for temporary insanity?

He whipped out his little shooter in public.

BONY 2012

But seriously, while everything that Kony has done is horrible, I hate how everyone has gone bandwagon on this. Now suddenly everyone knows 'everything' about it because they watched a silly little 30 minute video.

[scarabix]

Luckily no one seems to have fallen for this bullshit outside of the US.

Besides, why would you want to intervene in Uganda and potentially compromise the development of their fabulous movies?

[buncakes1337]

Apparently they made a sequel to Kony 2012:



Haven't watched it, I just thought I'd post it.

[drunken feedle]

i watched about 20 seconds of part 2 and its just another attempt to sucker people into the scam.
You might as well give your money to the benny hinn world cure revival while your at it.

He cures aids, cancer, and a broken heart. All for money.

Anyhow it's a cause but the guy whos supporting this cause is making more money then boxxys ebay channel

If i made a video about how corrupt the canadian government is and the conservatives and their election fraud would you give me 10 million dollars?