Religion?
#1
Guest_i crash castles_*
Posted 12 August 2009 - 04:08 PM
#2
Posted 12 August 2009 - 04:19 PM
uh... I should remember we did this is RS...
#3
Posted 12 August 2009 - 05:16 PM
#4
Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:05 PM
There's a name for people who can't decide...
uh... I should remember we did this is RS...
it's agnostic, and thats pretty much what i am
#5
Posted 12 August 2009 - 07:56 PM
Even though Science has done lots of stuff.
The Bible's historical stuff was proven by discovery teams.
So it's gotta be true.
#6
Posted 13 August 2009 - 01:30 AM
#7
Posted 13 August 2009 - 06:32 AM
My personal definition of Agnostic is someone who believes there is a higher power at hand, but believes the current religions are rather wrong, or guided away from the core of it all.
Personally, I'd be Christian if it wasn't for half the stunts the church pulls on the people, and some of the things the Vatican proclaims as truth or lies. Sometimes, they just don't know, and decide that since they don't know, it cannot be true, which is being ignorant. Forget about the Priests [very wrong action] little boys, the Church tried to COVER that. That is disgusting, and disrespectful towards the religion.
So because of all of that, I'm at the state of Agnostic, but with strong Christian overtones towards my beliefs.
#8
Posted 13 August 2009 - 07:03 AM
Religion = Retarded
If you would like to debate this, please die.
#9
Posted 13 August 2009 - 07:07 AM
Christian.
Even though Science has done lots of stuff.
The Bible's historical stuff was proven by discovery teams.
So it's gotta be true.
Obviously 1 or 2 artifacts which come from the time of Christ proves that gods existence is true.
#10
Posted 13 August 2009 - 07:10 AM
I'm Agnostic.
My personal definition of Agnostic is someone who believes there is a higher power at hand, but believes the current religions are rather wrong, or guided away from the core of it all.
Personally, I'd be Christian if it wasn't for half the stunts the church pulls on the people, and some of the things the Vatican proclaims as truth or lies. Sometimes, they just don't know, and decide that since they don't know, it cannot be true, which is being ignorant. Forget about the Priests [very wrong action] little boys, the Church tried to COVER that. That is disgusting, and disrespectful towards the religion.
So because of all of that, I'm at the state of Agnostic, but with strong Christian overtones towards my beliefs.
Agnosticism is self defeating, it's the belief in a God without an adherence to any religion. But it's founded on false pretenses, God is a man-made idea and if you've gone so far as to reject religion then why are you still clinging to the idea of a God or "higher power"?
#11
Posted 13 August 2009 - 11:28 AM
I'm Agnostic.
My personal definition of Agnostic is someone who believes there is a higher power at hand, but believes the current religions are rather wrong, or guided away from the core of it all.
Personally, I'd be Christian if it wasn't for half the stunts the church pulls on the people, and some of the things the Vatican proclaims as truth or lies. Sometimes, they just don't know, and decide that since they don't know, it cannot be true, which is being ignorant. Forget about the Priests [very wrong action] little boys, the Church tried to COVER that. That is disgusting, and disrespectful towards the religion.
So because of all of that, I'm at the state of Agnostic, but with strong Christian overtones towards my beliefs.
Agnosticism is self defeating, it's the belief in a God without an adherence to any religion. But it's founded on false pretenses, God is a man-made idea and if you've gone so far as to reject religion then why are you still clinging to the idea of a God or "higher power"?
Think about it.
People who were agnostic at the time when greek/roman gods were worshipped probably inevitably founded Christianity when they saw Jesus and his good deeds and that he sacrificed his life for our sins.
So agnostic people might find new religions.
#12
Posted 13 August 2009 - 07:28 PM
#13
Posted 13 August 2009 - 08:46 PM
This sums up my beliefs (or lack thereof) rather nicely:
Kind of like Pascal's wager. In simple terms it states : Believe in God, for if he is real you go to heaven, and if he isn't nothing happens. Can you believe it? This is one of the things that misguides a lot of people to pick up beliefs they don't really believe in, to save themselves from "damnation" if there is any. A way for religions to gather followers easily. "It's better to say I'm Christian/Jew/anything else than nothing! At least I won't go to hell!"
I hate when people say that.
Religion is more than accepting God. Accepting ancient rules. It gives us guidelines to live peacefully. Most teach us, in the core, to love each other, to never lose hope, to be united! Whether or not there is a God does not make religion! People make religion!
The bible may, as some say be false! And all other important books and lessons in all religions. BUT! People who read these writings can learn lessons of tolerance, love, charity, and virtue. And that, in the end, helps society and humanity be stable, and helps many people get through hard times.
#14
Posted 13 August 2009 - 09:20 PM
This sums up my beliefs (or lack thereof) rather nicely:
Kind of like Pascal's wager. In simple terms it states : Believe in God, for if he is real you go to heaven, and if he isn't nothing happens. Can you believe it? This is one of the things that misguides a lot of people to pick up beliefs they don't really believe in, to save themselves from "damnation" if there is any. A way for religions to gather followers easily. "It's better to say I'm Christian/Jew/anything else than nothing! At least I won't go to hell!"
I hate when people say that.
Religion is more than accepting God. Accepting ancient rules. It gives us guidelines to live peacefully. Most teach us, in the core, to love each other, to never lose hope, to be united! Whether or not there is a God does not make religion! People make religion!
The bible may, as some say be false! And all other important books and lessons in all religions. BUT! People who read these writings can learn lessons of tolerance, love, charity, and virtue. And that, in the end, helps society and humanity be stable, and helps many people get through hard times.
i understand what you mean, but the problem is that religion also sparks some of the worst conflicts. the crusades for instance, and any sort of radical islam terrorist activity. some people believe in peace ( islam for instance is actually a peace loving religion at it's core) the problem arises when people interpret things differently or bellieve that they need to do horrible things because of their religion. romans killed christians at the colliseum, satanists sometimes kill animals for rituals, christians sometimes bash homosexuals because all because of what they believe. i have no problems with any religion as long as it is of a peaceful nature
#15
Posted 13 August 2009 - 09:23 PM
I too am atheist.I'm Atheist, because science has proved so much over religion
#16
Posted 14 August 2009 - 02:54 AM
Please don't call others retards just because they disagree with youI'm not voting in this poll because Atheism is NOT a religion. Also there has been no evidence to support the bible, the "stuff" that has been proven was simply failed logic thought up by South Koreans, such as a diagram that claims that a box is the most structurally sound vessel possible, therefore proving Noah's flood. The problem with the flood is that if there was that much water, the water vapor in the air would make the simple act of breathing impossible, not to mention the logistics of having to obtain 2 of each of the few billion or so species on Earth and feeding them for over a YEAR.
Religion = Retarded
If you would like to debate this, please die.
#17
Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:01 AM
I believe in a theory of assisted evolution. Yes, given a large amount of time an organism will adapt to its environment in order to thrive instead of just survive. However, I believe that a higher power must have given the original push from single celled bacteria-like organisms into the multi-celled wonders we are today.
I also believe that it's much more than pure chance that we came out as the species we are today. That and the fact that the millions of different ways a species as well as a planet can be destroyed instantaneously or slowly has yet to happen. (Although some would argue we're slowing killing ourselves and the planet. I agree with those people on some levels and disagree with them on others.)
#18
Posted 14 August 2009 - 04:21 AM
Faith is the staple to many people's sanity, and morals. Without faith, the world would be lost.
Even though religion has also sparked many conflicts, spilled so much blood, you cannot deny how much good it has also procured from the people of this planet. Charities, acts of good will, friendship, improvement to self-esteem, the list goes on. This is why Religion is needed, even if seen as a wall for those "unknowing" of science's constant discoveries debunking some aspects of religion.
#19
Posted 14 August 2009 - 05:14 AM
My stance on being Agnostic is because out there, there has to be something. Some things just seem impossible, or to be the greatest example of luck and chance. There are times where the unexplainable happens, such as the stigmas people get in their hands from being so faithful to Christianity, holes in their hands that bleed constantly, yet they do not die from blood lose? Random weather causing a terrible accident or a great day to take effect, where it was foreseen as impossible? Sometimes the unexplained just causes belief. I for one chose to have something to believe in, something to put a face or name on to make it explainable. Without this, I'd be waiting for science to make an answer for me, and when it cannot produce one, what then?
Faith is the staple to many people's sanity, and morals. Without faith, the world would be lost.
Even though religion has also sparked many conflicts, spilled so much blood, you cannot deny how much good it has also procured from the people of this planet. Charities, acts of good will, friendship, improvement to self-esteem, the list goes on. This is why Religion is needed, even if seen as a wall for those "unknowing" of science's constant discoveries debunking some aspects of religion.
I have to say, very well spoken. While I may disagree with a few minor things you said, it's not enough to say that this comment is any less than true.
Edit:
I'm Christian. While I may not be as devoted as I should be, I do what I can to serve and be the best for my Lord. The sole purpose to life is to worship the creator and accept Christ as my lord and savior. It's simpler than people think.
The only point I'll bring up is that I would say everyone, and I do mean everyone, has more stereotypes for Christians than any other thing in the world, and I can guarantee a large portion of these claims are untrue, and frankly I'm sick of them.
#20
Posted 14 August 2009 - 05:19 AM
Even though religion has also sparked many conflicts, spilled so much blood, you cannot deny how much good it has also procured from the people of this planet. Charities, acts of good will, friendship, improvement to self-esteem, the list goes on. This is why Religion is needed, even if seen as a wall for those "unknowing" of science's constant discoveries debunking some aspects of religion.
I'd be inclined to argue that the "bad" far outweighs the "good."
Although this video singles out Christianity, i think it's pretty interesting regardless of your religions beliefs.
#21
Posted 14 August 2009 - 05:21 AM
Pretty much I respect other peoples religions, but hate it when they try to push it on to me severely (explaining is different). Most of the time I just don't care.
#22
Posted 14 August 2009 - 05:27 AM
Even though religion has also sparked many conflicts, spilled so much blood, you cannot deny how much good it has also procured from the people of this planet. Charities, acts of good will, friendship, improvement to self-esteem, the list goes on. This is why Religion is needed, even if seen as a wall for those "unknowing" of science's constant discoveries debunking some aspects of religion.
I'd be inclined to argue that the "bad" far outweighs the "good."
Although this video singles out Christianity, i think it's pretty interesting regardless of your religions beliefs.
My Lord... I wish I could talk about this in real life. Because typing over a computer doesn't get enough across as fast as I want it to.
As for your comment about bad outweighing good, why would you say that? And for the love of all that is good in the world please don't say religious wars... There's only ever two reasons wars are fought, A) as a self defense
#23
Posted 14 August 2009 - 11:47 AM
#24
Posted 14 August 2009 - 02:49 PM
Even though religion has also sparked many conflicts, spilled so much blood, you cannot deny how much good it has also procured from the people of this planet. Charities, acts of good will, friendship, improvement to self-esteem, the list goes on. This is why Religion is needed, even if seen as a wall for those "unknowing" of science's constant discoveries debunking some aspects of religion.
I'd be inclined to argue that the "bad" far outweighs the "good."
Although this video singles out Christianity, i think it's pretty interesting regardless of your religions beliefs.
My Lord... I wish I could talk about this in real life. Because typing over a computer doesn't get enough across as fast as I want it to.
As for your comment about bad outweighing good, why would you say that? And for the love of all that is good in the world please don't say religious wars... There's only ever two reasons wars are fought, A) as a self defenseas a way to attain power.
AAAAAGH! Watching that video makes me so MAD! Wxcuse my english or... whatever I write.... I must get this out.
Whoever made this video is trying to make a point. That he doesn't believe in God. Fair enough. His theories of trying to UNDERSTAND God are less than satisfactory! How does a dude who has dismissed religion as false try to explain God?
God is not some vending machine. Pull the lever, ask a prayer and he gives.
"God give me $500" It won't happen.
Amputees huh? Why does God ignore them? Well... giving them legs isn't a miracle. Giving the strength to go on is! Giving them the willingness to talk to young people, to other amputees is the miracle!
Starving people? So.... you Mr Video Maker, desire for meals to materialize in front of starving children. If a child has fought, been morally strong, never performed any act of crime even in the face of death, he deserves the highest pedestal in heaven, for being good righteous.
God won't magically make things appear. We need to live our own lives. Pray for God to give you protection from danger. He won't cover you with a bullet proof blanket! He'll give you logic, common sense, and let you make the right choices to be safe. And even still, praying won't stop death. When it comes it comes, and no matter how much religious fervor, money,, or doctors you have, you will die.
This person makes God look like an all powerful giver of material goods and gifts, of spontaneous healing. I hope one day, he actually looks at God in depth, from the eyes of a true Christian before casting these harsh ideas.
Theses are all my views. I am just a kid, and I speak of my interpretation of my church. I'm not the Pope, and what I say doesn't stand for all Christianity.
I back you up Fiddler, I could write more, but... I'm tired...
#25
Guest_Rawkin' Trawgdor_*
Posted 15 August 2009 - 03:21 AM
I only believe in the Moralistic values of Satanism. Things like, I worked hard to get to where I am today, no "god" gave me everything.
And, I believe that the thought of a "God" exists, is completely stupid. No offense to any Christians, but if you lived in a time when you didn't know the sun existed, what would you think it is? It's big, floats in the sky, gives everything life. Sounds pretty much like God to me.
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