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#26 Basilisco

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 01:57 AM

*Shifts feet nervously* I shouldn't have said that.

Here's one idea:

When you die, you turn reincarnate as some strange invisible bird (otherwise known as a spirit) and fly around watching stuff in the world until people forget about you and you stop existing altogether.

There. Something simple, happy? D:


I actually did think of something like that in a story i wrote, but in the story when people forgot about you you reincarnated(?) and you were a baby again.

Also i think that if you are a hater you become what you hate so your soul will suffer forever :evil: -just a theory ;)

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:01 AM

I have several insane theories about life that would make me go to a crazy house.

This is the reason I fear boredom. I need to stop myself from thinking about it.

Haha, same, sadly.

Purgatory is life after death, yes?
I'm not sure what to believe yet.
I have a few theories, but I don't know which to believe whole-heartedly.

Do we just fade away, or do we become reincarnated?
Reincarnation doesn't seem very likely, as that would mean there were as many souls today as there were then, which is obviously not true.
Unless the souls of other creatures count.
Thinking about reincarnation makes me sad. Living through life, only to forget everyone you loved? That doesn't sound very appealing.

I guess religion plays a big part in believing in it or not. And since I'm Agnostic, I'm left to the dark, to think of everyone else's opinions and form my own view.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:21 AM

Thoughts like what happens after death are the reason I watch TV or talk on the phone in bed. It's a terrifying subject to me. Some times it just hits me, like "Dude, one day you're gonna die. Like, I mean, your life is going to end, bro."

I have no clue what goes on after we die, which is why it's so damn terrifying. I mean, if there's no after life, do we just like, go? Like, one day, it's just "Oop I died. Poof I'm gone."?

I mean, the only person I know is real is me. For all I know every other human being, or living thing for that matter, on this earth cold be a figment of my imagination. So if it turned out I was the only real human being on this earth, even the only real living thing in this universe, what would happen when I died?

There you have it, folks, ramblings of a madman.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:45 PM

Do not click this if you will not read it all. It is about my belief.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:59 PM

Do not click this if you will not read it all. It is about my belief.

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I haven't really read through the bible (sue me), but you seem to make good points.
And the reason that the bible features things like incest, polygamy, and murder because those weren't really big deals back then. Yet, nobody wants the bible rewritten because it's "holy".
I'm not saying it isn't, but I'm not saying it is either.

In my opinion, not one religion is the "true religion".
I, myself, am Agnostic. I'm not an Atheist, because I have not truly decided what to believe yet.
I haven't really looked for anything to believe in though.

Anyway, awhile back I saw a show (I think it was Supernatural), and it basically said that everyone's heaven is unique to them, and based on their best memories.
It sounds nice to me, but it is certainly questionable.
But so is every other idea.

I still like the idea of a "Heaven" better than reincarnation.
Although the idea of reincarnation makes a bit more sense. Especially if you can be reincarnated into any creature.

There's also a possibility of there being a "Heaven" where you can be reincarnated by choice or something.

I'm not too sure.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:24 AM

There's also a possibility of there being a "Heaven" where you can be reincarnated by choice or something.

I'm not too sure.


Well, Heaven is supposed to bring eternal joy with God the Father with all those we knew who have died, and those who will die, so I wouldn't want to go back to Earth. :)

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 05:45 PM

I haven't really read through the bible (sue me), but you seem to make good points.
And the reason that the bible features things like incest, polygamy, and murder because those weren't really big deals back then. Yet, nobody wants the bible rewritten because it's "holy".
I'm not saying it isn't, but I'm not saying it is either.

In my opinion, not one religion is the "true religion".
I, myself, am Agnostic. I'm not an Atheist, because I have not truly decided what to believe yet.
I haven't really looked for anything to believe in though.

Anyway, awhile back I saw a show (I think it was Supernatural), and it basically said that everyone's heaven is unique to them, and based on their best memories.
It sounds nice to me, but it is certainly questionable.
But so is every other idea.

I still like the idea of a "Heaven" better than reincarnation.
Although the idea of reincarnation makes a bit more sense. Especially if you can be reincarnated into any creature.

There's also a possibility of there being a "Heaven" where you can be reincarnated by choice or something.

I'm not too sure.


Can you really just pick a religion and it becomes true? Also in regards to rewriting the Bible I'd like to point out that while those certain things may not be so prevalent today many of the principles in the Bible can be applied to various aspects of life today.

2nd conclusion: religion is an irrational ideal. Everything else I have experienced in life has a logical explanation, so why does it make sense to accept something so gratuitously inconsistent with the rest of my life?


What makes Religion, Christianity to be exact, so irrational?

3rd conclusion: I do not feel that practicing something like religion allows for any inconsistency. When I began to read the Bible with my mother, I noticed all of these paradoxes. It is easily understood that Moses was using the fear of an all-powerful god to keep control over the other Jews during their exodus from Egypt. When he and his buds wanted something, Moses said in summary "God wants it" to his people. He scared them into giving him gold, silver, fine threads and a feast every day. This is not my definition of a good person. Also, the Bibles features examples of terrible things like incest, polygamy, and murder going unpunished while when non-believers commit milder crimes, the result in death.


I haven't read through Exodus in a while but I know for a fact that Moses rarely disobeyed God's will. He never abused his power. Could you possibly give me a verse where you think abuse of Moses's power was shown?

Also, hypocrisy bothers me. "Good Christians" who haven't even read the Bible and thus do not actually follow all of the terms and conditions (just look at what is expected of Christians by reading Leviticus). With this, it bothers me that the Bible is used to justify all action. Nobody is superior to anyone else, despite what the Bible (particularly the Old Testament) says.


I'm not denying the thousands of Christian hypocrites that exist but with a religion as big as Christianity you will get many that simply "claim" to be Christians.
Even the temple back in Jesus's day was filled with hypocrites. In Mathew 23:27-28 Jesus says: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
Also the rules have changed since the old testament now that Jesus has died for our sins.

Sorry for such a long post.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:06 PM

Can you really just pick a religion and it becomes true?

No, it's either true to begin with, flawed, or not true at all.
Yet, it's not easy to find the "true religion".

Some people just want to have a religion, such as Christianity or Judaism, and stick with it no matter how irrational it could be.
Who knows for sure if the irrational parts actually happened.

I don't know. And I don't mean to offend anyone, so I'm sorry if I have.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:07 PM


Can you really just pick a religion and it becomes true?

No, it's either true to begin with, flawed, or not true at all.
Yet, it's not easy to find the "true religion".

Some people just want to have a religion, such as Christianity or Judaism, and stick with it no matter how irrational it could be.
Who knows for sure if the irrational parts actually happened.

I don't know. And I don't mean to offend anyone, so I'm sorry if I have.


I'm not offended. I just strongly believe in Christianity and enjoy a good debate regarding said topic.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:38 PM

I'm not offended. I just strongly believe in Christianity and enjoy a good debate regarding said topic.

Alright.

I'm just an agnostic kid right now, so I don't really have the greatest idea of what's what.
But when I have time I'll read through a bunch of religions to get a better idea.

Well, Heaven is supposed to bring eternal joy with God the Father with all those we knew who have died, and those who will die, so I wouldn't want to go back to Earth. :)

Well, I wouldn't either.
Some people might though.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 08:12 PM

Well, Heaven is supposed to bring eternal joy with God the Father with all those we knew who have died, and those who will die, so I wouldn't want to go back to Earth. :)


If I'm remembering correctly there'll be a new Earth with a giant city. I'll be back once I've read that part again.
[EDIT] Yep, there'll be a new Jerusalem on the new Earth.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 02:53 AM

I choose to live life the way it suits my life and entertains myself and worry about the after life once I'm dead!

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 07:35 PM

I choose to live life the way it suits my life and entertains myself and worry about the after life once I'm dead!


What happens if you die and find out you're goin' to Hell? Wouldn't it be best to be prepared?

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 07:37 PM

I choose to live life the way it suits my life and entertains myself and worry about the after life once I'm dead!


What happens if you die and find out you're goin' to Hell? Wouldn't it be bested to be prepared?

And live a dull life?
No thanks.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 07:45 PM

I choose to live life the way it suits my life and entertains myself and worry about the after life once I'm dead!


What happens if you die and find out you're goin' to Hell? Wouldn't it be bested to be prepared?

And live a dull life?
No thanks.


What's 60-100 years compared to eternity?

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 07:48 PM

What's 60-100 years compared to eternity?

I'm atheist.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 07:54 PM

What's 60-100 years compared to eternity?

:/ I am not sure i would like to exist forever...

its like being gods, and everyone knows gods envy us because they are stocked in eternity and we have an undefined fate. ;)

EDIT:according to my brother it is spelled stuck


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Posted 19 April 2010 - 09:05 PM

i dont know what happens after death, personally im hoping for reincarnation :D

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 10:02 PM

I choose to live life the way it suits my life and entertains myself and worry about the after life once I'm dead!


What happens if you die and find out you're goin' to Hell? Wouldn't it be best to be prepared?

How could you prepare for hell? Fire suits?

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 11:57 PM


What's 60-100 years compared to eternity?

:/ I am not sure i would like to exist forever...

its like being gods, and everyone knows gods envy us because they are stocked in eternity and we have an undefined fate. ;)

EDIT:according to my brother it is spelled stuck


Trust me, it won't be boring. Heaven is a perfect place. Also, God, capitol 'g', is very different compared to gods, little 'g'. gods are just puny imperfect man-made imitations of the real God. Why would the God who loves us and can do anything he wants have his children's future home be boring?

I choose to live life the way it suits my life and entertains myself and worry about the after life once I'm dead!


What happens if you die and find out you're goin' to Hell? Wouldn't it be best to be prepared?

How could you prepare for hell? Fire suits?


A. Admit your a sinner.
B. Believe that Jesus died on the cross.
C. Call out and ask him to come into your heart.

Then you don't even have to worry about Hell. I guess prepare wasn't the best word choice.

i dont know what happens after death, personally im hoping for reincarnation :D


Is hope enough, why not put your faith on a firm foundation?



What's 60-100 years compared to eternity?

I'm atheist.


I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully that will change.

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:04 AM


What's 60-100 years compared to eternity?

:/ I am not sure i would like to exist forever...

its like being gods, and everyone knows gods envy us because they are stocked in eternity and we have an undefined fate. ;)

EDIT:according to my brother it is spelled stuck


Trust me, it won't be boring. Heaven is a perfect place. Also, God, capitol 'g', is very different compared to gods, little 'g'. gods are just puny imperfect man-made imitations of the real God. Why would the God who loves us and can do anything he wants have his children's future home be boring?


that was on purpose :)

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:42 AM

I smelllllll Super Christian!
[quote name="zarlighttusk"]
Trust me, it won't be boring. [/quote]
So have you been there? How is it?

[quote name="zarlighttusk"]Heaven is a perfect place. Also, God, capitol 'g', is very different compared to gods, little 'g'. gods are just puny imperfect man-made imitations of the real God. Why would the God who loves us and can do anything he wants have his children's future home be boring?[/quote]
"God" is referring to the God that is the center of certain beliefs.
"gods" is when you're talking about more than one god.

[quote name="zarlighttusk"]

A. Admit your a sinner.
B. Believe that Jesus died on the cross.
C. Call out and ask him to come into your heart.
[/quote]
There's more religions than just Christianity, you know.

[quote name="zarlighttusk"]
Is hope enough, why not put your faith on a firm foundation?[/quote]
Give me proof.

[quote name="Babbity_Rabbity"][quote name="zarlighttusk"]

What's 60-100 years compared to eternity?[/quote]
I'm atheist.[/quote]

I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully that will change.[/quote]
[mybelief]I'm sorry that I don't believe in God because of the condition of Earth. If there really was a God, he wouldn't have made humans this stupid. [/mybelief]

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:53 AM

...does every atheist have to discriminate all other religions? :roll:

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:55 AM

...does every atheist have to discriminate all other religions? :roll:

Well excuuuuuse me for stating my reasons as to why I am an atheist.

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:57 AM

...does every atheist have to discriminate all other religions? :roll:

No. But can't they voice their thoughts and reasons? Religious people get to voice theirs, so why not the atheists?
And I'm not trying to start a fight right now, I'm just trying to get a point across.




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