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[Babbity_Rabbity]

There was an article in GamePro about how piracy effects both the company and the gamers themselves.

As piracy becomes more popular, the developers are making less money, and therefore they can't make as many new and innovative games.
So the pirates are really preventing themselves from getting a better quality product in the future.

I really don't see why people think pirating is okay. If you buy the game, not only are you supporting the creators of a game you like, but its also not illegal.
If anything, they need to find a way to track illegal downloads and fine the people who get them.

[Slusheee]

Pirating games is just wrong. Really, it's shoplifting, without the physical taking the item. But in some aspects, I can see why pirating might be acceptable. Like if there's a couple CDs from a band you really like, but you can't find them anywhere, AND the band is no longer together

[mechazeep]

Its preety much as bad as buying used games from gamestop.
Except money goes towards gamestop.. which Im preety sure is more of a con then a pro.

[Abyssmal Cookie]

I don't really see why people think pirating is ok either.
I'd much rather pay for something and get more creative games.

If anything, they need to find a way to track illegal downloads and fine the people who get them.

This is a pretty good idea.

Pirating games is just wrong. Really, it's shoplifting, without the physical taking the item. But in some aspects, I can see why pirating might be acceptable. Like if there's a couple CDs from a band you really like, but you can't find them anywhere, AND the band is no longer together

Agreed.

[Slusheee]

It would be almost impossible tracking everyone who pirates with the technology avaliable. That's well over a couple million people

[Roflcopter]

It would be almost impossible tracking everyone who pirates with the technology avaliable. That's well over a couple million people

Obviously. You gotta stop it at the source.
Also, my friend has a device called an R4 for the DS, which lets him download any DS game that comes out, for free of course. He has a lot of games.

Spoiler

Not gonna lie, playing that thing is fun

[Abyssmal Cookie]

Obviously. You gotta stop it at the source.
Also, my friend has a device called an R4 for the DS, which lets him download any DS game that comes out, for free of course. He has a lot of games.

Spoiler

Not gonna lie, playing that thing is fun

I heard about stuff like that.
My friend's brother actually has something similar, which stores several games, and let's him download any for free.
I'm just like.

And when I see him playing it I explain to him that he should just pay for the games.
Of course, he doesn't listen.

[The Forgotten Knight]

Its preety much as bad as buying used games from gamestop.
Except money goes towards gamestop.. which Im preety sure is more of a con then a pro.

Game companies are still making profit from Gamestop sales, otherwise there would be a major lawsuit.

[mechazeep]

Its preety much as bad as buying used games from gamestop.
Except money goes towards gamestop.. which Im preety sure is more of a con then a pro.

Game companies are still making profit from Gamestop sales, otherwise there would be a major lawsuit.

Hardly.
Gamestop gets alot of $$ when they sell used games.
Why do you think they always pester you for used games? Gamestop employees are scored by their ammounts of reserves, subscriptions and selling/buying of used games.
Watched all the Zero Originality episodes.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xozb ... e-3-part-3

[Mr. Welldone]

I have an R4i, like a R4 but for the DSi.

[Rizyq]

I don't like piracy, really, at all...

But, to people saying stop it at the source, it's legal to download, say, a DS ROM or something, IF you legally own the game.

Same with pretty much anything.

Which is why they can't just stop the source, nor find people easily.

[Bloob]

I don't like piracy, really, at all...

But, to people saying stop it at the source, it's legal to download, say, a DS ROM or something, IF you legally own the game.

Same with pretty much anything.

Which is why they can't just stop the source, nor find people easily.

It's barely legal.
The only way to have a legal ROM is if you do not play the ROM. For whatever reason, it's alright to have a backup ROM in case your original game is broken, but it is considered illegal if you actually play the ROM.

[Slusheee]

My friend told me a while ago that downloading isn't illegal, only uploading is. And by that I mean seeding torrents. If you know how torrents work you know what I'm talking about.

But that sounds hardly credible because it makes no sense at all

[Bloob]

Also, here's an example of what damage piracy does:
http://www.joystiq.c...ortable-piracy/

[Basilisco]

My friend told me a while ago that downloading isn't illegal, only uploading is. And by that I mean seeding torrents. If you know how torrents work you know what I'm talking about.

But that sounds hardly credible because it makes no sense at all

Aparently, in mexico nothing is illegal.

Jokes aside, i hate book piracy with a passion.

[SushiGummy]

I heard somewhere that it's legal to download a game you don't own for 48 hours. This is what I do. Then, if I like the game, I'll buy it.

[DesertThug]

There was an article in GamePro about how piracy effects both the company and the gamers themselves.

As piracy becomes more popular, the developers are making less money, and therefore they can't make as many new and innovative games.
So the pirates are really preventing themselves from getting a better quality product in the future.

I really don't see why people think pirating is okay. If you buy the game, not only are you supporting the creators of a game you like, but its also not illegal.
If anything, they need to find a way to track illegal downloads and fine the people who get them.

Innovation wont die at the hands of piracy. The developers get paid by the company they are working for. Commission is only given to the top heads that spearhead the project such as the initial leaders of the infinity ward team. If you buy a game made by EA you're primarily supporting EA and the only thing you as the consumer are actually doing is providing a poll to help them decide if a sequel is necessary or not.

Also for those that can't afford new games and need to buy used games, guess what. Used game sales only support the retail store that sells them like Gamestop and the late Gamecrazy. I personally don't care about piracy and understand why some may practice it.

[Babbity_Rabbity]

There was an article in GamePro about how piracy effects both the company and the gamers themselves.

As piracy becomes more popular, the developers are making less money, and therefore they can't make as many new and innovative games.
So the pirates are really preventing themselves from getting a better quality product in the future.

I really don't see why people think pirating is okay. If you buy the game, not only are you supporting the creators of a game you like, but its also not illegal.
If anything, they need to find a way to track illegal downloads and fine the people who get them.

Innovation wont die at the hands of piracy. The developers get paid by the company they are working for. Commission is only given to the top heads that spearhead the project such as the initial leaders of the infinity ward team. If you buy a game made by EA you're primarily supporting EA and the only thing you as the consumer are actually doing is providing a poll to help them decide if a sequel is necessary or not.

Piracy = fewer games sold
Fewer games sold = less money for developers
Less money for developers = fewer jobs

Your arguments there has so many holes in its its not even funny.

[The Mad Fiddler]

People try to find reasons to justify illegally downloading things and the truth is it's wrong. We just try to tell ourselves in some skewed way why it isn't.

[DesertThug]

There was an article in GamePro about how piracy effects both the company and the gamers themselves.

As piracy becomes more popular, the developers are making less money, and therefore they can't make as many new and innovative games.
So the pirates are really preventing themselves from getting a better quality product in the future.

I really don't see why people think pirating is okay. If you buy the game, not only are you supporting the creators of a game you like, but its also not illegal.
If anything, they need to find a way to track illegal downloads and fine the people who get them.

Innovation wont die at the hands of piracy. The developers get paid by the company they are working for. Commission is only given to the top heads that spearhead the project such as the initial leaders of the infinity ward team. If you buy a game made by EA you're primarily supporting EA and the only thing you as the consumer are actually doing is providing a poll to help them decide if a sequel is necessary or not.

Piracy = fewer games sold
Fewer games sold = less money for developers
Less money for developers = fewer jobs

Your arguments there has so many holes in its its not even funny.

Piracy = fewer games sold (This is only a conjecture but sure some people wont buy and then others will.)

Fewer games sold = less money for developers (less commission for the top dogs actually. People get payed hourly for doing work by the company. Its not like payment directly correlates to game sales. Thanks for reading.)

Less money for developers = fewer jobs (less money for the already rich executives doesn't mean much. Find an article that explains the disappointment in a group of developers. Also in the video game business I noticed if you make a name for yourself as an individual that works well with a team the job thing isn't something to worry about. It's like Hollywood.)


I don't really get why you like to pick fights but whatever.

[drunken feedle]

If everyone pirated behemoth games this site wouldnt exist and there would be no money to make new games.

think before you speak

[Basilisco]

I agree with babs, but why does his comment have to be funny?

[Babbity_Rabbity]

Piracy = fewer games sold (This is only a conjecture but sure some people wont buy and then others will.)
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Fewer games sold = less money for developers (less commission for the top dogs actually. People get payed hourly for doing work by the company. Its not like payment directly correlates to game sales. Thanks for reading.)
Less money for the commissioners means less money for the developers. Its like payment directly correlates to game sales. Thanks for reading.

Less money for developers = fewer jobs (less money for the already rich executives doesn't mean much. Find an article that explains the disappointment in a group of developers. Also in the video game business I noticed if you make a name for yourself as an individual that works well with a team the job thing isn't something to worry about. It's like Hollywood.)
I won't say that game developers don't have a good time at their job, but they certainly aren't "rich."


I don't really get why you like to pick fights but whatever.
You're possibly the most ignorant person I've ever met.
And thats not picking a fight, just telling you what I've noticed.

[Roflcopter]

And thats not picking a fight, just telling you what I've noticed.

Yea you are right, but do you always have to show your proof in the douchiest way possible? Can't you ever just state your proof without trying to make the other person look like a complete idiot?

[Babbity_Rabbity]

And thats not picking a fight, just telling you what I've noticed.

Yea you are right, but do you always have to show your proof in the douchiest way possible? Can't you ever just state your proof without trying to make the other person look like a complete idiot?

Well excuuuuse me, princess.
Yes, I do. Thats just how I act in arguments.